Steve's Thoughts, Idea's and Ramblings
2014 update -- After talking with some guys that hunt the clubs around us, I've come to decide our members did a great job last year in letting the little deer walk. Much better than my first thoughts were about it. While working during the spring and early summer at the club, I've seen five of the largest bodied deer I've ever seen anywhere in GA.
The trail cameras are taking photos of healthy looking deer, many yearlings along with 2 1/2 Y/O's. It's still a little early to get any photo's of mature bucks or our does with fawns, from the reports I got from members about the numbers of 1 1/2 Y/O's that were seen and allowed to walk last year there's no reason to think the fawn recruitment rate shouldn't be at least as strong as last years.
A shed was found on the club that was measured and scored, if the other size matched and I see no reason to think it wouldn't have, it came from a 160 class deer! Guys, with us now taking a few bucks over 200lbs for the last three years, that's not too shabby for a North Ga club and proves how well our program is working. About the fawns, I'm almost finished with the plots and about to start trapping again. I need your help, if you get any photos of a coyote, find any coyote scat or see their tracks, please either call or text me the info with the location, I'm proud to say I'm not finding their sign as much as I once did. I thinking about offering either Pay Pal or Square Center for the dues, the upside is, no check or MO to have to mail, the down side is the charge for the service which would add approx. 15 dollars to a membership based on 525.00 . If any of you can or want to give me some feedback on this idea or anything else that could improve the club, get in touch with me with your ideas.
I talked to Mr. W the other day about what I was thinking;
Our herd is from a stocking decades ago by the forerunner of our DNR, It was known as the GA state game and fish Commission. Deer from NC,VA,TX, IL. & WS,
were railed in and released on this property back when it was still a
part of the WMA program, I believe because of the plots and more
importantly by allowing the deer to mature has allowed the mix of genes to kick in and work the way it was intended to work, Back then, they didn't have the huge amount of information on the importance of nutrition we have at our fingertips today. I could be wrong but it’s the only thing I can think of that would explain the size of deer I'm seeing now.
June 6th 2013
We didn't take many deer last season BUT most were talking about the number of young deer they saw. We have some fawns on the ground and the trapped coyote count is over 200, the number of deer sightings and the great turkey season we had proves trapping yotes works for us. I did get a bit of news about the other clubs around us, their harvest last season was almost identical to ours, I still think we are about two years ahead by bringing in the trapper much earlier than the rest.
We had the best turkey season we've had in five years. The rain as kicked the clover plots into overdrive, they're doing exceptionally well and I'm keeping them fertilized and cut.
The pics we're getting are encouraging, many young bucks and some not so young, I saw one buck that will be a whopper this year
Member Fee Reminder
all members who are late with their member fee balance. Please be aware
that our lease payment comes due in full Sept. 1st 2013. It is
important that all members pay off any balance owed ASAP.
Thank you Steve
March 1st 2011.
We took our first ever 200 Lb buck in 2010, its
the one Benny has in the pics section from last season. While I wasn't
the guy that got it, that was a personal victory for me. We proved we can grow 200 lb
deer. This was always my long term goal for the club. I was told way
back when, "It was impossible where we are." Well this is more proof the QDM
program works. Let um live a few years and feed them well and they WILL
The coyote trap count is 200+ and continues to climb, the pro trapper is back to
work. He's taken nine off the lease in the last two weeks. I've been
more or less scouting for him and its harder and harder to find any sign
or tracks of them anywhere on the club. When I do find sign, it looks
like a pack trying to find a new home so the fawn crop should be close
to normal for us this year. I thought all of you should
know about it.
Most of the plots are OK, all need a good dose of
fertilizer. A few have to be plowed under and
redone this year. One other thing, I mailed out the invitations a few weeks ago,
if any members didn't get his, please call me, most the time
its an address change and I don't have the right mailing. Thanks again, Steve!
There will be a rules change about gut piles. I've always field dressed my deer where they fell and told you guys its ok to do that , the new policy is "don't feed the coyotes", I'm going to have a gut pile dumping hole put in for us, somewhere between the two camps. Enough about yotes.
Just some random thoughts about you, me and the club: I hope every member would at least visit QDMA's web site and see what its all about; its where most my ideas come from. You can also download and read the QDMA 2013 Whitetail Report.
I wish when members were walking the plots they'd take a long handled screwdriver with them and dig out and throw rocks out of all the plots. When I'm on the tractor sometimes it feels like there's more rocks in some of them than dirt.
One other thing and I'll quit til later; most all of us make some type lick or hang a feeder for the deer, comeheredeer, deer-cain, salt, black magic, etc. Just something to think about; I'd never ask anyone or expect anyone to spend money they didn't want to. Puretia makes a deer chow for feeders and Whitetail Institute has a product called 30-06 worth looking at for making a lick. A look at our plots and the increase in our deer's size will tell you they make good deer products, like I said, these are just my thoughts, not asking or suggesting anything to you.
Oh, and if you should see a coyote this season
SHOOT THAT THANG!!
NOTE: Please Don't forget to mark your stand. And just as important Don't forget to remove your pin when your safely out of your stand.
3-4 times over the years I got a call from a distressed wife about her husband not getting home when he said he would, I need to have a place to start looking, and when the pegboard has many leftover pegs from members that didn't bother to remover there peg I waist valuable time.
PLEASE REMOVE YOUR PEGS WHEN YOU FINISH HUNTING
It could mean life or death for a fellow member.
What members should do if they find a poachers vehicle?
A poacher is nothing but a thief and stealing from everyone of us, if we don't control it we will create larger problems in the future for us all.
If you see a vehicle without a decal, or club letter from Steve on the dash. Call it in, the steps are both simple and safe.
First take a photo of the vehicle, make sure to get the tag #.
Then call 1 800-241-41131 800-241-4113
Turn in a poacher
The operator will take the info. and give you instructions, if the DNR is busy and it'll be hours before they can arrive, then call 911 for Cherokee County and tell the operator its a Non-emergency call and a deputy is needed at the site to record the incident. Once that happens I can take the tag number to the court house and file trespass charges.
I certainly don't want anyone to get into an altercation with anyone, However, we learned from past experience, once the word spreads we WILL prosecute in court the problems go away.
When calling Turn in a poacher, If your TIP leads to an arrest, arrangements will be made for you to receive reward money even if you wish to remain anonymous.
"Hunters Change through the years"
Factors used to determine “successful
hunting” change as well for each hunter. A hunter’s age, role models,
and his years of hunting experience affect his ideas of “success.” Many
hunters may fit into one of the following five groups. In 1975-1980,
groups of over 1,000 hunters in Wisconsin were studied, surveyed, and
written about by Professors Robert Jackson and Robert Norton, University
of Wisconsin-La Crosse. The results of their studies form a widely
accepted theory of hunter behavior and development. Where are you now?
Where would you like to be?
The hunter talks about satisfaction with
hunting being closely tied to being able to “get shooting.” The
beginning deer hunter will talk about the number of shooting
opportunities. Missing game means little to hunters in this phase. A
beginning hunter wants to pull the trigger and test the capability of
his firearm. A hunter in this stage may be a dangerous hunting partner.
"Limiting Out Stage"
A hunter still talks about satisfaction
gained from shooting. But what seems more important is measuring success
through the killing of game and the number of birds or animals shot.
Limiting out, or filling a tag, is the absolute measure. Do not let your
desire to limit out be stronger than the need for safe behavior at all
This hunter has all the special equipment.
Hunting has become one of the most important things in his life.
Satisfaction comes from the method that enables the hunter to take game.
Taking game is important, but second to how it is taken A deer hunter
will go one on one with a white-tailed deer, studying sign, tracking,
and the life habits of the deer. Often, the hunter will handicap himself
by hunting only with black powder firearms or bow and arrow. Bagging
game, or limiting, still is understood as being a necessary part of the
hunt during this phase.
As a hunter ages and after many years of
hunting, he “mellows out.” Satisfaction now can be found in the total
hunting experience. Being in the field, enjoying the company of friends
and family, and seeing nature outweigh the need for taking game. Not all
hunters go through all the stages, or go through them in that
particular order. It is also possible for hunters who pursue several
species of game to be in different stages with regard to each species.
Some hunters feel that role models of good sportsmen, training, or
reading books or magazines helped them pass more quickly through some
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